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John Obelenus's avatar

Every. Single. One, rings true.

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Thomas To's avatar

I agree with the assessment that tickets and user stories are often abused. They are used as handoffs and to avoid building shared understanding among PMs, designers, developers and other members. In this sense, I think that a team where PMs don't have to write user stories as much as other "typical" teams is a positive sign at first.

But "placeholders for conversations" can also imply that we only need conversations and not stories. Sometimes details are lost and things are not acted upon, even if we talked about and agreed together.

I think the better way to think about user stories are like pictures. When you look at a picture, you recall the details that are not in that picture, but the picture serves a purpose. Sometimes you forget what's there if you never look at the pictures.

So details that we agree upon, acceptance criteria and shared understanding should be captured, preferably in the form of user stories. I think the collective efforts of building shared understanding naturally result in user stories, and so in a sense, "PM's don't need to write user stories" is still true. They don't "need" to write user stories, user stories naturally arise!

When you build something reasonably complex, having your shared understanding captured in ways that we can point at and discuss is pretty useful.

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